[quote=CoWoCuPu]so what do you think? is that right?[/quote] I think I understand the reason for kiddy being banned, I remember he was cursed long before he was banned. Do not get me wrong, I like kiddy he has helped me in the past and always showed me respect, but he was wrong I fell sure admins discussion with Shirow was straight forward and Shirow understands whatever mistake he may have made. To continue this discussion is only fueling the problem. My recommendation is the topic be closed and everyone involved take a deep breath let it go and continue to be fruitful members of the forum.