[quote=the_legend_killer]well did you know that when im still studying java i use to program it in notepad in sun solaris and their are still no gui applet so we use to do some prgrams manually at then after finishing my 2 java subjects the hell with them they introduce netbeans and also some new applet like gui thats so unfair [/quote] I really LOL'ed on this one It's seems like you have to taste the bitter fruit first before biting on the delicious ones Yeah... I really love to be a java prog But my friend told me that they are hiring a senior programmer So I have to work hard on it I may have some programming backgrounds on java We have been on a part time job in another company to make class methods and stuffs for their object I have to try hard on this one so that I won't fail