nice lay.. keep it up..! a fan of jack also huh. suggestion..: instead of posting the code.. post the URL instead... by which i mean is this.. [quote]http://h1.ripway.com/trojan13/elmerskie/NBC.css[/quote] and then place a link connecting to the css generator.. mostly used here in ftalk. this is the link.. http://jsesbreno.googlepages.com/Darylldelfin.htm get? edit ur post.. so that people will not be confused where the url of ur lay is..