[quote=Cryogenix]an easier way of acomplishing this would be to use either the underscore hack (for ie 6 and below) or the pound hack (for ie 7 and below). for example, your general width is 400px, but in IE it is either 5 pixels shorter or longer, you can do an adjustment in just one css file like this: width: 400px; //for most browsers like FF, Opr, Sfr #width: 395px; //IE7 and below will use this instead of 400px _width: 405px; //IE6 and below will use this instead you might be wondrin what's the difference between the # and _ when they are both IE? well sometimes, even IE6 & 7 can differ. but of course it's a very minor thing if you think about it. you can simply opt to use just one depending on which browser you are making adjustments to. but hey, i hope this helps.[/quote] yes you can do that also.. tnx for that knowledge you gve! bt i thnk the codes i gve would just fit perfectly to any kind of IE.. btw im using IE8. [quote=Refresh/Reload]xelcris wrote: reminder? wt do you mean about that? dd someone posted it here before? if its true? then why is there so many layouts that had been distributed that has that kind of problems? even famous laymakers have experience that problem before... and why i am not seeing that kind of code in some layouts? is it stupid enough to be using it? ro they find a way of positioning the box that works both IE and FF? hmmm.... i'm talking about those !important... and that !important have been explained on some threads before... and the problem why there's so many layouts have some problems coz some members use the codes they see here as is... not even bother to study it or if some parts of the codes can be use to other codes too... like how important !important is... or don't even bother to read some of the threads first... how to be imaginative... play trial and error... you can see that !important on some of the old codes here... and explained on some threads why we have to use it... that's why i've said "nice reminder" on your post... coz u figured out one way on how to use it... ok i'll change it to "nice post!!" if that's the comment you want... here's one of the thread about those !important ... see the last edit date... Center Align Profile so knowing that's possible.. then maybe i can use that !important on other areas too...not just in Centering Profile text... for example... my banner codes... #navigation { width:800px ! Important; height:300px ! Important; background: url(PUT URL OF 800 X 300 BANNER HERE); background-attachment: scrollable; backgroud-repeat:no-repeat; codes... etc...; } and by using !important alone... i don't even have to do this... #navigation { width:800px ! Important; width:800px; height:300px ! Important; height:300px; background: url(PUT URL OF 800 X 300 BANNER HERE); background-attachment: scrollable; backgroud-repeat:no-repeat; codes... etc...; } coz the first one with that '! Important;' is enough for both IE and FX.. so trial and error is really is the key... that's only what i'm trying to point out... i'm weird...? thanx:D :gift: i thought i'm normal coz normal is boring.[/quote] aheheh.. dont say that.. normal is fun, same as weird one.. yes it is Trial and Error.. that's what codes for.. hmm.. on banner? mine play stupid wd just using single width.. we'll it depends on you.. whether u use single width wd !important or not.. as u said before, its trial and error.. having a layout that will work perfectly needs trial and error.. too many trial and error!!!! heheh... discover it urself so that u'll knw the right thing.. isnt that a laymaker should do!? [i]i said this: its annoying to see ur made layouts position is not in the correct area in other browser..[/i] and also, i dd nt tell that u should use it in all css codes.. i just said [i]and you can use it with other css codes..[/i] please refer to the top... hehehe... thnx again for responding.. and chatting wd me.. its nice talking to someone who knows codes heheh..