one thing for me to remind myself... i'm also a newbie and a observer.... i'm not a moderator or a script creator.... but respect is one thing i had in mind just to be fair to others.... i don't mind what people say but.... at least you can get some idea of it... to be able to coop or to create situation maybe good or bad.. and also its everyone's responsibility to be observant... whether it another web site or another place... you must respect what people believes on.... so nobody argue.... just this is just a simple reminder to all... that everything has it's place.... just follow some simple rules.... so everyone will follow the example of it.... get it?