this is overlay sec ryt... wvm chatbox mode... like wat ehhjahy said do work only if the viewer is not u ... second wvm css made by marfillaster ain t applicable to overlay... WVS was the original codes made by mark's et al.... even before those wvm of ken exist... record show... those wer made there first... now wat ur query again .. be sure u r using wvm chat mode for overlay first... not that one for non overlay... why since the process of applying is different...