Good M/A/E Classes...
My turn to lift up :P
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Sorry to post like this, but because im late to post at Sugestion and Feedback refering to this thread which has been closed :arrow: [b][url]http://theftalk.com/t46882-4-all-moderator-in-Friendstertalk-Forum%21%21.html[/url][/b]
I post this for FTI members still in emotional state or which not understand about this matter.
(This is English Version, which the Indonesian version i already posted here [url]http://theftalk.com/p1755951-Today-23%3A38%3A55.html#p1755951[/url])
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[quote=metropolix]Why the other moderators on that region didn't come there (that time)? :o
So that's why there was a moderator from other region came and trying to resolve the problems there (in FTI) :P[/quote]
[b]1. Why the other moderators on that region didn't come there (that time)?[/b]
[u]Answer:[/u] Maybe they were busy in life or other thread?
[b]2. So that's why there was a moderator from other region came and trying to resolve the problems there (in FTI) :P[/b]
[u]Answer:[/u] Goin be cleared after you read my post below. ;)
[hr][hr][hr][b][color=#cc0000]Global explanation[/color]
based on information from few threads and member's post:[/b][hr][hr][hr]
This banning case actually isn't needed future explanation because everything is really [b]CLEAR[/b] now.
Unfortunately, I saw 90% of members and moderators who can't understand because didn't read information which has been given from other member or
moderator.
[b]Explanation why kiddy got banned (based from threads, posts, and screenshot):[/b]
[quote][b]TKP(Place of Issues):
Point 1:[/b]
First post of Kiddy, as response from okacybernet's post
http://theftalk.com/p1719362-2008-09-27-00%3A47%3A31.html#p1719362
Shirow's answer for that post (Kiddy's post)
http://theftalk.com/p1720139-2008-09-27-08%3A34%3A42.html#p1720139
[b]Point 2:[/b]
Kiddy's next post
http://theftalk.com/t37137-p92-Kritik%2C-Saran-dan-Pertanyaan-Mengenai-Ftalk-Indonesia.html
[b]Rules:[/b]
http://theftalk.com/misc.php?action=rules
Pay attention to Rules 1 and 4
[quote]# 1. Use your common sense.
# 4. No spamming and flamming in any form.[/quote]
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[b]Conclusion[/b] (Please open your mind when reading those words below):
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[b]1. From Point 1[/b]
Why did I see kiddy bolded/underlined these words "[b]tolong ajak member dalam mengambil keputusan..jangan selalu sepihak[/b]" which referred to one Moderator?
From Shirow's answer for kiddy's post looked emotional. It is because kiddy didn't use "Common Sense" in other word "Awareness". If we look again on Shirow's words, we could imagine it as an admonition from a teacher to a student. Where that student who should know and understand about the Rules/Manner in a forum, but looks like he forgot about the rules/manner.
Task/Responsibility of a Moderator just to [u]moderate [/u]which is: managing, supervising and helping admin in maintaining the forum. Besides, it has been the task/responsibility of a Ftalk Moderator to absorb member's desire for admin/owner as "suggestion" to the development of forum.
And that suggestion will be discussed on Backstage between all Moderators and admin/owner whether to be implemented base according to the important/plus value from that suggestion, and well.. the suggestion still depending from the approval/agreement of forum admin/owner.
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[b]2. From Point 2[/b]
It looked like two of them became emotional who made them flaming each other and ended with kiddy got banned by Shirow. It has been public secret that lots of FTI members always trying to lurk for other's mistake. And those FTI members think that they can lurk for Shirow's mistake as Outside Moderator who took action on FTI Regional. Let's open our mind again to see the logical example from me:
[spoiler][b]Example Situation:[/b]
A Jakarta police is having vacation on Bandung. And when he taking a walk to Paris Van Java (One of the mall in Bandung), coincidentally there is a pilferage beside him. Will that police chase and catch the thief? Or that police just stay silent see that pilferage because he isn't on his juridiction area?[/spoiler]
Isn't that right after Shirow banned kiddy, his ban got removed and got banned again by Yuna? (Just like the Jakarta's police above, after catch the thief and give the thief to Bandung's Police for further process)
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And beside member always refer to the "Outside Moderator" problem, I have found there's a lot of member who lok on other thing in process of Banning which is: [u]Warning PM, Cursed, then Ban.[/u]
[b]Nah.. for that, you can see it here:[/b]
http://theftalk.com/t25199-Spammer-List.html
[i](Take a look on edited's date by icekandi 24 Agustus 2008)[/i]
There's kiddy name there, and kiddy has been [b]cursed[/b] few times ago.
[quote=anne.24]Just another opinion,
he is not getting banned forever, so why did u guyz choose to make things worse?[/quote]
Can you guys be like anne.24? Just grow up and accept that guy mistake!
[b]Who the FUCK is kiddy? He's important?[/b]
And please do not add more [b]humiliation[/b]with those childish actions.
[i]As I am ashame to be one of FTI.[/i]
[i]Quote of the day[/i]: Check info from many resources than take from only one and believe in it. Then act aleast using your Brain.
[i]Hopefully that all of you can act more maturely, or at least use ur mind nor consciousness.[/i]
Thanks.