the topic starter juz gave his point of view... and i dont diagree as well,.... im not been harrass here yet and im thankful it havent experience it yet as well but surely wat he reported here r base from fact... thats true why u guys cant accept it.. if u are offender and guilty why not say sorry... yes again i dont contradict to title.. better base the mod promotion not only to code shared but the way they deal to people here... wer not different from the rest some r juz priviledge they got group .. well half of those are juz stepping to one another to be regognize and fear off... " scratch mine ..ill scratch urs mentality"

[b]@threadstarter:[/b] This is not a moderator issue.... It is a member issue... Why..? Coz it doesn't mean that if you are not a moderator, you are allowed to post rants and throw arguments... In the first place, do we ever think of situations that push the mods to flame...? So is it only the mod's fault...? If you are suggesting to hire some mods, how about adding "hire better members"....? I am not saying I totally disagree with you... But let us first try to weigh things... And think on how to react and handle things appropriately... [b]@sharzieboy5[/b]: Better not post if you dont have anything to say.... [b]@ej[/b] Why won't use "We" rather than "They"...? You are not an exception at all...

[quote=ducheszv]i wish youd used the word "WE" instead of "them" or "they" you know. You can't deny that you were harsh before. [/quote] Err.. Those are exceptions from the subject matter since whenever I am harsh, I have my reasons. And those reasons are acceptable and valid. I know where should I place myself and when to stop. What I mean about being harsh are by the use of rude comments and unnneccessary actions against members. Did I even swear to members directly or indirectly? If ever, please show me some of my post. Maybe I am just having some memory gaps. Again, I want to remind that whenever I am harsh to [b]members[/b], I first assure that other members can understand my side and my own point of view, and not just using a dictionary to find impressive words to seek other members side and sympathy. And if ever I improperly behaved before, I had my reasons. I can enumerate them to support my claim. [quote=cUtiEshika]@threadstarter: This is not a moderator issue.... It is a member issue... Why..? Coz it doesn't mean that if you are not a moderator, you are allowed to post rants and throw arguments... In the first place, do we ever think of situations that push the mods to flame...? So is it only the mod's fault...? If you are suggesting to hire some mods, how about adding "hire better members"....? I am not saying I totally disagree with you... But let us first try to weigh things... And think on how to react and handle things appropriately...[/quote] What do mean by hirring better members? Moderators are assigned, entrusted and expected to deal such events that a common forum could have. If they unable or having difficulty dealing any problems and situations that will arise, moderators should consult and ask for any assistance. -- [spoiler]And by the way, how can I even replace the word "them" and "they" in my statement? That won't sense since in this line "I've seen [b]them[/b] did those already. But then eventually I guess [b]they've[/b] learn their lessons." will be "I've seen [b]we[/b] did those already. But then eventually I guess [b]we've[/b] learn their lessons." it will have wrong grammars and it won't suffice to the idea.[/spoiler] -- If you find my post offensive, then because I have my reasons. -- In addition, why give further comments if the last decision would be the Admin. I've already talked to Admin and he was asking me if we should hire (or I think he said revise) moderators. I had two thoughts that moment. At first I thought I should disagree, but then I agreed on him. I even recommend some members to him.

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Do I really have to elaborate them? [quote=ducheszv]are you saying that you have VALID reasons and the others dont?[/quote] I didn't say that their reasons are invalid. But at times, they don't even have reasons of doing such disgusting acts. Do you want me to enumerate those? [quote=ducheszv]and i think cutieshika meant, hire better members as moderators. you are being sarcastic you know. lulz dont lose it.[/quote] Can you read what she posted again? Why do members post rants and rage the moderators? Because moderators provoke them to do those. Think about this, if moderators are nice and can deal any situations in an orderly manner, without using harsh and rude comments, what would the members' feedbacks?

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^ It may somewhat help cleaning and moderating the forum since some moderators are having some difficulties and being busy or losing their interest of participating here. In fact, I can see some moderators viewing the forum and don't even give some concern whether to help us or not. A simple lock, trash or zap reports will do. We do not force them to share some of their brilliant ideas, they can preserve those for their personal life. I also agree with Ephemeral. I also did some harsh comments but like I was saying, I didn't intend to seek them to take my side or gain sympathy. I only use harsh comments if and only if I have to, for example a moderator bullying other members, or a moderator is making fun of a religion, or a moderator provoking other members to participate on their so called fun games which by the use of images that are obviously offensive on some members and moderators, and of course the use of signature to persuade and attempt to revive a certain argument, so I have to use unneccessary side comments that will remind them of their position and their roles.

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[quote=ducheszv]And obviously, admin is not dumb to give them the "moderator" rank if they were.[/quote] I didn't even say that Admin is dumb? In fact, when we had a chat, we were wondering why there are some moderators appointed on their positions. We were evaluating some moderators. Geez. Just wait for Admin's response about this. No need for further comments since he is the one to decide on this topic.

[color=#086989]facepalmslashwrist[/color] Here are my views This complaint obviously rooted from the recent conflict in the Philippines section between [b]meng.o3[/b] and [b]threadstarter[/b]. [align=center]Honestly I don't even believe that this thread was given much thought when it was created. [/align] [hr][hr] Some peeps here are [u]missing the point[/u] [b]entirely[/b]. [img]http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/43.gif[/img] Only [b]God[/b] knows why someone has to play [b]hero[/b] again and say things that's completely irrelevant [img]http://engr.smu.edu/~kaytaz/63.gif[/img] Lots of "side issues" getting brought up here and it's really an [color=#086989]eyesore[/color]. It's the very same reason why there are lots of people reacting to a certain post here. If you still have problems with those moderators doing inappropriate actions then I suggest you PM them instead of making a scene again. Can't let go of old issues? then it's [b]your problem[/b] not theirs. All i see are [color=#086989]LAME EXCUSES.[/color] "mine is valid" "I have my reasons" and more blahbla.. tg;dr. But all of those crap are aside the point [refer to my first line] [hr][hr] [align=center]Well then let's just see what admin has to say about this Just want to remind the [b]threadstarter[/b] that [color=#086989]Rome wasn't built in a day.[/color] Don't [b]complain and rant[/b] -- moderators and members should help each other. Remember that moderators are also humans -- [u]same as you and i[/u]. � [/align]

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Well now, I shall lock this thread before someone will post a bias-heroic post. And let's wait for admin's opinion about [b]the first post[/b].

Can i say my last comment here? the topic has been already supported with the posts above. So basically this is how [b]we[/b] moderate. At first a moderator will give its opinion then the rest of the staff will immediately criticize and notice every detail of that particular moderator. This is usually what happen and it never fail to occur. this is also how we use our signatures. We put harsh rude and disturbing phrases to seek some certain person/people, annoy them and embarrass them. We never forget to use different words to represent the people that we are trying to annoy. We use sarcastic post like and use such impressive and unnusual words just to support our claims. Thanks to some posts above, of course including mine, we assure to give proofs to support the threadstarters complain or feedback by doing the said acts. Do we really have to evaluate furthermore? [spoiler]In addition, my posts that yuna mentioned, one is when i merely expressed my reaction for the fact that i witness someone were accepted after me and him had an argument. The other one is i had to post some swear since i was removing rants and argument in that particular thread whereas some people didnt even cared to help to eliminate the said argument. About the thread that they were saying i seek sympathy, well in fact i didnt intend since that particular topic was about prohibiting any further arguments in that certain section. [/spoiler] [spoiler]why do other moderators will participate mostly whenever i am involve in a particular event? One moderator didnt even mentioned that he was one of those rude moderators, and whose he was even the one to use an imagery of a God of a certain religion just for the sake of annoying other people. Well anyway, like i said, all are rest assure thanks to our posts above. This is how we participate and moderate in some events[/spoiler]