imo having egroups here in ftalk is like dividing us all into sub-groups which later results to like class differences and others would be op or something like that. if ever there are egroups, i hope it will only limit to 2-3 classes, or even one. hehe. class X .. awhzz. i also don't care who pm'd that one. it doesn't matter to me. hehehehe. coz i'm so not active in this section anymore. sorry about that. just posting my opinion.