[quote=ykisaragi16]I am the one who against to the rules given especially those sections. What is the importance of rule number one if moderators still implementing rules that even the rule number one can rule everything?! About the rule thingy, I am not guilty what your are expecting and where are those chances?! As I said in my feedback above you, I only received one official warning from Jirichi Ryunashira. The two chances are still missing.[/quote] Excuse me, but I am [b]not[/b] referring to you, I'm referring to ReverZero. Moderators give him a [b]lot[/b] of chances. but he abused it. and i think before they banned someone, they discuss this in the backstage. Prove to us that he is deserving to unban. give a solid reason that ReverZero must be unban. BlurryCloud has a lot of evidence. how bout you? How can you depend a person if you don't have a proof of evidence?

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[b]portuniecho[/b] [b]May I ask, How?. How did they forced you. ?. If you have some grudges on a certain Moderators. Its Ok if you will confront them One-On-One. Instead of posting Rants in public right?. That's what everybody's saying here. "If you have a grudges to someone, Confront them" instead of discussing it on public. Other Moderators can help you confronting that member/moderators. We are family here, We should let our instincts open. And we need to let it out in a Formal Manner, In a way, Both of you will understand each other by not raising your voices/feelings. Right?. The Threadstarter suggesting to unban You(Reverzero). But we need to follow the rules here.. If you break the rules, You will received the consequences. 2 weeks is not long enough. We just need the consideration here. Since the decision was made and clear. Lets say, This will be a good lesson for you. I'm hoping that this argument will end up soon. I am saying my opinion here as a formal manner. I hope you will get what I mean. [/b] There are some several reasons why I'm doin' these things. The unneccesary rules in some sections that can even rule the rule number one, the way they argue to me, the don't have the ability to chill the type of person like me when I commit mistakes. They obstract the freedom of every newbies here in Ftalk. They generalized all newbies have negative force, despite they underestimate them, treat them like a kids. They make me feel they always on the right track, and they don't even admit their mistakes. [b]nanix84[/b] [quote]Thank you If it is equality that you seek for... would you mind on siting those? I am not into both sides here... I just want to help lessen the tension on both sides and prevent more conflict to arise BTW, I am asking you the same question I asked sir ephe... How can we resolve this issue? We all know we do mistakes... little or not... blah blah blah... yadi yada do... But we need you to speak out How to assess this problem So both sides will agree... and this argument will end for the greater good... Finding out who is to blame will lead to an endless conversation... OFFTOPIC: Well... it is a good thing that this forum still has it's freedom of expression... And I really appreciate that[/quote] That's why I'm fighting for it. To solve the issue, it will unfortunately ends on their hands! Hope not this time! Edit: [b]dondon[/b], kindly please read and understand my previous posts. [b]tap13[/b], Nice to meet you too and I understood your commence. Thanks for the boost support.

Last edited by ykisaragi16 (2008-11-10 01:05:39)

^ Yup the strong point was there. Initially the way they warned me in that crush topic was improper. There are visible and invisibles made me ignite. I only ask question to Bel and boom we reached so far~ Edit: I also opposed some members who intentionally opposed the rules here but what no one revenge and argue me terribly. As far as I know I didn't even receive a single character against me.

Last edited by ykisaragi16 (2008-11-10 01:32:04)

^ Oooopppps sorry sorry sorry I generalized all moderators... I will not name names who are those moderators, I know, you know who are they! Currently you are now witnessing who are those moderators. About doin' the proper way, please read my edited quote above you. Once again I'm terribly sorry what I posted.

^@Aries please read my 2nd post thanks. [quote=ykisaragi16]blurry cloud I admit those are my fatal recklessness in this problem due to the fact that I didn't control myself in that moment. But the question is did you guys send me an official warning/s through via pm?![/quote] As you can see all the evidences are on the table right now, by replying in that thread to stop your irrelevancy is a warning. It doesn’t mean that kind of warning doesn’t fall in your so called “official warning”, why would bother to send a private message to a member like you, if your posting obliquely to those threads and just overlooked all the warnings of a certain moderator to you. That explains your not analyzing the reply of a moderator to your irrelevancy. “Warning is still a warning.” [quote]Where are the opinions of other members that I really deserve that punishments?! And in for short where is the subordination of invidual interest to general interest?![/quote] We don’t want to talk about a case of a member that needs to be banned in this forum publicly. Simply we are concerned about the feelings of a member because we are all humans here. And that explains the general interest of each and everyone. [quote=ykisaragi16]The freedom I'm wanting in this forum was so limited, the things what I want to do has been obstracted by the rules implementor.[/quote] What kind of things you want to do? By being irrelevant to some thread? By saying “Hey this thread is non-sense” That’s why we are here in this position to implement the rules. [b]We are not creating obstacles to all the things you want. You can do whatever you want, as long as you follow the simple rules. Don’t be so self centered. [/b] [quote=ykisaragi16]Well then I'm on the flow of this huge dump site full of thrash.[/quote] [b]So you just treat this forum as a dump site. Is that it? So why bother posting your rants about the rules? [/b] [quote=ykisaragi16]Well we're looking forward on this notification. I acknowledge your word of honor.[/quote] You have my word. [quote=ykisaragi16]about flaming and posting such rants, moderators forced me to do those things.[/quote] [b]forced? since when we force a member to post rants? [/b] [quote=ykisaragi16][b]First thing to say is it was not offensive at all. I strongly disagree that every always obey the rules. The major problem of such rules are so sensitive plus the one who made it. It obstracted your freedom. I disagree that mods are really doing what they think are right.. What do you think of them, they are Gods?![/b][/quote] As we said over and over again, if you have problems about the rules and the added rules in some thread, SNF is always open for your suggestions and feedbacks. That’s pretty simple. [quote=ykisaragi16]There are some several reasons why I'm doin' these things. The unneccesary rules in some sections that can even rule the rule number one, the way they argue to me, the don't have the ability to chill the type of person like me when I commit mistakes. They obstract the freedom of every newbies here in Ftalk. They generalized all newbies have negative force, despite they underestimate them, treat them like a kids. They make me feel they always on the right track, and they don't even admit their mistakes.[/quote] I beg to disagree with this one. Do not generalize all the moderators around this forum. You might not want to fall in that situation. This is just a friendly advice. I know you said this in your past post here, and I know that you are referring to your “old forum”. [url]http://theftalk.com/t26926-p3-%5BA-Tutorial%5D-How-to-get-cursed-or-get-banned-from-FriendsterTalk%A9.html[/url] [quote=ReverzerO]I will kill the most arrogant moderators in our forum, kicking their ass without any doubt and failures I will think for step number six to billion steps and see even their ashes will survive in this planet See this step 6 to pulverize the most arrogant moderators [/quote] So don’t make us think that you want to do this to a moderator of [url]Friendstertalk.com[/url] that in your own opinion is he/she is being “arrogant”. [quote=ykisaragi16]I disagree that mods are really doing what they think are right.. What do you think of them, they are Gods?![/quote] We are not gods we are just a human like everybody else here we do only what we think is right cause it is supposed to be well you broke some rules right? then we just do the so called right thing you said.

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[quote=ykisaragi16]^ Oooopppps sorry sorry sorry I generalized all moderators... I will not name names who are those moderators, I know, you know who are they! Currently you are now witnessing who are those moderators. About doin' the proper way, please read my edited quote above you. Once again I'm terribly sorry what I posted.[/quote] It's okay. i just wanted to clear that I'm no part of this.. issue. Or maybe I am? IDK. [quote=aRies04991]@Ice: I believe reverze didn't refuse that he has received several warnings.[/quote] Yeah. I kinda did a backread. Forget about that statement of mine.

I am still curious... I admit, I don't want to read some of the post because, I am quite bored. My questions still remain... Who started it? Was it the moderator or the member? Who admitted he was wrong? Are the facts photoshopped or tampered? Nobody even bothers to analyze these simple questions. You guys keep posting ramblings all over again. Get to the point. I hate to sound like a jerk but come on... Isn't it obvious? Besides it's just two weeks. If he is that smart as he says. Why not make a new account temporarily and show something good. If this keeps up, well... All I can say is "Aloha".

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[i]Walang magpapatalo dito. Tama na.[/i] I understand. Both parties are really eager to stand by their decisions and words. However, this discussion will go nowhere. I believe we should stop now cause your points are mostly pointed out already and you stated all your defenses and arguments. I expect posts prior to this topic (by reverzero and those mods he is referring to) to be off revenge, anger or anything related to this anymore. It's too childish to talk about this again after the 2 week duration of his banned status. He can discuss all his dilemmas and complaints PRIVATELY as said by Duch. No pun intended. Chill.

You're just doing your job. So it was clear you are not the one who started it... His friends should be thankful to you because, you only banned him for two weeks rather than forever. So, I am still waiting for a proper decent reason why to unban him. I am not blind or deaf so please enlighten me. For the info, Here is the picture... He broke then rules, he got cursed, he kept on doing irresponsible post and finally, he got banned. He is a pioneer member so his banning period was not that grave. He was given a first and second warning only because... Come on, he already has 3000+ post. Obviously he is familiar with the rules by now... Besides you guys keep ignoring the facts. Post, post, blah blah blah... He broke the rules and he got banned. Do the math. Just a note... His account banning may be prolonged due to ykisaragi16 aggressiveness, causing a commotion within ReverseZerO's jurisdiction will just put him more in jeopardy. If you're really a friend of his. You should have think first before stepping the line. Who are we to judge right? Same to you... Who are you to judge? We have given facts, so judge on those.

Last edited by Ephemeral (2008-11-10 05:26:03)

Okey then I will listen to the hearts of my real friends. It doesn't mean I withdraw all the things what I'm fighting for. I am still expecting my account will be activated this day. For those people who opposed the way I am, I am not contented the proofs you had. I still had several questions that not been answered concretely, eluding them cowardly. About this http://theftalk.com/t26926-p3-%5BA-Tutorial%5D-How-to-get-cursed-or-get-banned-from-FriendsterTalk%A9.html , I'm just on the flow of the topic. He forced to be like that but fortunately we are now as one team now. Ephe, about who started, just dig and dig and dig what's really the main root why I'm doin' these things. I'm screaming for justice not only for me, it's for all the members who are dramatically abandoned this forum. It's obviously they are shouting for justice in a manner of malignant ways. I still believe they will exist destroying this unbalanced forum.