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What is Euthanasia? Euthanasia is the deliberate and intentional killing of a human being by a direct action, such as a lethal injection, or by the failure to perform even the most basic medical care

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What is Euthanasia? Euthanasia is the deliberate and intentional killing of a human being by a direct action, such as a lethal injection, or by the failure to perform even the most basic medical care

What is Euthanasia? Euthanasia is the deliberate and intentional killing of a human being by a direct action, such as a lethal injection, or by the failure to perform even the most basic medical care such as the provision of nutrition and hydration, necessary to maintain life. Euthanasia is not..... the ceasing of medical treatment which is unwanted, or is imposing excessive burdens on the patient, or is incapable of providing any benefit, or the use of drugs in doses sufficient to relieve very severe pain. The use of pain relieving drugs is limited only by the side effects produced by those drugs. Such drugs rarely endanger life unless used deliberately in extremely high doses to those unaccustomed to receiving those drugs. Medical actions intended to relieve suffering are ethical and lawful, as are the withdrawal of treatments which are only unnecessarily prolonging dying. Though the patient may later die of his terminal illness and though such death was foreseen, death was not intended by what was done. To describe these practices as euthanasia is misleading. Good medical practice is NOT active killing. Do you agree with the practice of Euthanasia? if yes............ justify your answer.. if no............. justiy your answer.... you dont have to make it long a simple sentence will do...
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if no............. justiy your answer.... because it is taking away life that given to us by the creator. . . *I hate what I become
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My answer is, it depends. Why? If someone is suffering a lot, for example, lost all his legs and arms and has no reason to live anymore, are we just going to let him suffer more after he suffered a lot? If he asks for it, fine, but if not, then it's also fine, it's his/her decision. Nobody want's to see someone suffer a lot.....
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I agree with skrikerno14..it depends on the medical condition of the person. Also what is the real difference in euthanasia and the common practice of taking someone off of life support?
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[quote=striker]My answer is, it depends. Why? If someone is suffering a lot, for example, lost all his legs and arms and has no reason to live anymore, are we just going to let him suffer more after he suffered a lot? If he asks for it, fine, but if not, then it's also fine, it's his/her decision. Nobody want's to see someone suffer a lot.....[/quote] [quote=bobcbar]agree with skrikerno14..it depends on the medical condition of the person. Also what is the real difference in euthanasia and the common practice of taking someone off of life support?[/quote] I can see that we have a couple of good justifiers here....... but what if your on the position of the person that is to be killed by using the practice of Euthanasia? would you still want it to be done to you by your relatives? [quote=secrec]if no............. justiy your answer.... because it is taking away life that given to us by the creator. . . *I hate what I become[/quote]

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Strikerno14 pretty much said what I wanted to say. If I see somebody in terrible pain, I wouldn't end his/her life even if it would probably kill me to see him/her suffering. It's his/her decision. If they asked for it, then I would [i]probably[/i] comply. (It's still morally incorrect, though.) If they didn't, then I guess the only thing I can do is to be there for him/her because nobody wants to die alone. [quote=sherovin;#3647829;1278438428]but what if your on the position of the person that is to be killed by using the practice of Euthanasia? would you still want to be done to you by your relatives?[/quote] For now, I do not have a rock-solid decision if there ever comes a time where I become terminally ill or get into an accident which requires euthanasia, but for now, this will be my answer: I don't mind if my family or relatives decide to practice euthanasia. Although as much as possible, I would like them to not give up on me that quickly. For example, if I need to be in a respirator 24/7 because I'm in a coma, I'd probably tell them now to wait a couple of years before pulling the plug. If I'm suffering terribly, then I guess I want them to let me make my own decision. If I'm unable to, then that's when they could do whatever they want. But until I'm still able to, the decision will be mine and mine alone. This may sound a bit morbid or masochistic, but I kinda want to die naturally as much as possible even if I'm in terrible pain. But... who knows? I might change my mind if I'm already in that situation. :lol3:

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[quote=blackmamba]For now, I do not have a rock-solid decision if there ever comes a time where I become terminally ill or get into an accident which requires euthanasia, but for now, this will be my answer: I don't mind if my family or relatives decide to practice euthanasia. Although as much as possible, I would like them to not give up on me that quickly. For example, if I need to be in a respirator 24/7 because I'm in a coma, I'd probably tell them now to wait a couple of years before pulling the plug. If I'm suffering terribly, then I guess I want them to let me make my own decision. If I'm unable to, then that's when they could do whatever they want. But until I'm still able to, the decision will be mine and mine alone. This may sound a bit morbid or masochistic, but I kinda want to die naturally as much as possible even if I'm in terrible pain. But... who knows? I might change my mind if I'm already in that situation.[/quote] "@blackmamba "So youre saying that you'd rather suffer from your illness for a couple of years so you could make a decision whether to or not ask for Euthanasia?
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I'm not in favor of Euthanasia unless of course the patient himself signed up for it. lol. Why? Let's say a guys steps on a mine bomb, wakes up, found himself without limbs... would you kill this person because he's in a lot of pain? No, you don't put down a person like an animal. (There are prosthetics anyway. lol.) Cancer patients. Okay, they have terminal cases and these guys suffers like a lot. Their illness sucks, treatment sucks everything sucks. But you know what? Even if that's the case, most of em fight the disease to live longer, stay longer with family and friends so.. We should appreciate life more.

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[quote=forsakendoll]I'm not in favor of Euthanasia unless of course the patient himself signed up for it. lol. Why? Let's say a guys steps on a mine bomb, wakes up, found himself without limbs... would you kill this person because he's in a lot of pain? No, you don't put down a person like an animal. (There are prosthetics anyway. lol.) Cancer patients. Okay, they have terminal cases and these guys suffers like a lot. Their illness sucks, treatment sucks everything sucks. But you know what? Even if that's the case, most of em fight the disease to live longer, stay longer with family and friends so.. We should appreciate life more.[/quote] was that a no....... ok....... so youre saying that we should respect the lives of others? even if the person has nothing to hope for at all?
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^ I think she's saying that yes, we should respect the lives of others. As for having "nothing to hope for at all," I guess what she meant was that IF they [b]don't[/b] want to be killed, why kill them? /: It is not anybody's decision to relieve somebody from their suffering just because he/she has nothing to hope for anymore. If he/she wants to die, then that is his/her will. At least, that's what I understood from what she said. @___@ [quote=sherovin;#3647855;1278450111]"@blackmamba "So youre saying that you'd rather suffer from your illness for a couple of years so you could make a decision whether to or not ask for Euthanasia?[/quote] No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying I wouldn't mind if my family would go for the 'mercy kill' on me if I am unable to decide on my own. I haven't really told them this, but yeah as much as possible, if they were to practice euthanasia, I at least wouldn't want them to give up on me easily. Give me a couple of years. See if I wake up or live or whatever. I'm also saying that I [i]most probably[/i] wouldn't practice euthanasia even if I'm suffering. Although I [i]would[/i] rather suffer from my illness for a couple of years if it meant being with the people I love for a bit longer. (:

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[quote=sherovin;#3647829;1278438428]but what if your on the position of the person that is to be killed by using the practice of Euthanasia? would you still want it to be done to you by your relatives?[/quote] As I said, it depends on how bad my injury or sickness or whatever it is that is keeping me from killing myself.
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"@blackmamba" [quote]So what you really mean is that you would wanna stay with your love-ones longer and wait for the time if ever youll get cure or not from a certain kind of desease... or if ever you get out of comma.... Did I get it right...........Or did I just missed the bulls-eye again?[/quote]
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No. Because dying of old age is better than euthanasia, as simple as that. And death by accident is accident. Alone.

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[quote=serados]No. Because dying of old age is better than euthanasia, as simple as that. And death by accident is accident. Alone.[/quote] @serados? what if you survived the accident but you no longer have your legs, arms and you went under comma...... wont you still prefer Euthansia? Ill be waiting for your reply....... hehheheeheh
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[quote=sherovin;#3648316;1278512471]@serados? what if you survived the accident but you no longer have your legs, arms and you went under comma...... wont you still prefer Euthansia?[/quote] 1. concerning about legs and arms. Reality speaking, a man that lost his legs/arms can still have a job using his remaining senses and the beautiful reality is that some handicaped still finds true love which is worth spending entire life. Upon the case of BOTH loss of arms and legs, the only thing that man has to have is a strong determination to live in normal life and as reality dictates that everything has a solution. No feet? there's an artificial feet, no money? get a wheel chair. 2. In comatose state, i remember in our retreat when i was still in high school where we visit a home for the aged home, there's an old woman that almost all of its body is paralyzed to the point that even her eyeballs are not moving at all but she is smiling, eating, sight seeing (via a special chair). That, is what you call living at its fullest. If ever thosse occur in my case, honestly i would'nt have done what other handicaps can do. But one thing for sure, euthanasia is out of my "escape-hatch". Simply viewing the nature already gives me calmness and i have a very loving parents. What else do i need?
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[quote=sherovin;#3648129;1278492927]So what you really mean is that you would wanna stay with your love-ones longer and wait for the time if ever youll get cure or not from a certain kind of desease... or if ever you get out of comma.... Did I get it right...........Or did I just missed the bulls-eye again?[/quote] Hmm... Not entirely. It doesn't matter if they find a cure or not. I just want to stay with my loved ones longer. Even if I'm in pain or disabled or whatever. As for me being in a coma, obviously I'd be just laying in bed. It is up for my family to make that decision for me. All I ask from them is that they give me a chance to see if I could wake up from it. A couple of years. Up to them for how long, though.
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[quote=Serados;#3648348;1278516647]1. concerning about legs and arms. Reality speaking, a man that lost his legs/arms can still have a job using his remaining senses and the beautiful reality is that some handicaped still finds true love which is worth spending entire life. Upon the case of BOTH loss of arms and legs, the only thing that man has to have is a strong determination to live in normal life and as reality dictates that everything has a solution. No feet? there's an artificial feet, no money? get a wheel chair.[/quote] What if he asks for it? Yeah, some people may be optimistic but you can't force someone to be happy, you can't say "just because you lost your arms and legs doesn't mean you have to die", that sounds really stupid and you really don't need to say that. You may have a reason to live but everybody doesn't have a life like yours. But as I said, it depends on the person, you have to respect the person's decision cause if he won't, he'll just be living on what you believe not what he believes.
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[quote=strikerno14;#3648368;1278519142]What if he asks for it? Yeah, some people may be optimistic but you can't force someone to be happy, you can't say "just because you lost your arms and legs doesn't mean you have to die", that sounds really stupid and you really don't need to say that. You may have a reason to live but everybody doesn't have a life like yours. But as I said, it depends on the person, you have to respect the person's decision cause if he won't, he'll just be living on what you believe not what he believes.[/quote] you know what really sounds stupid? its those who claims to be not one of suicidal emos but when a terrible scenario happens on their life, they resort immediately on euthanasia as a petty excuse to escape life and don't get me wrong, suicidal emos slit themselves because THEY WANT TO a.k.a "Their optimistic point of view" and for your information, some are higher than others but the bottomline is they/we actually start their/our life on the same plane, it's just how we utilize that makes our state difference to others.

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[quote=Serados;#3648369;1278519519]suicidal emos slit themselves because THEY WANT TO a.k.a "Their optimistic point of view"[/quote] actually their just stupid, and most emos dress like that cause it looks cool. [quote=Serados;#3648369;1278519519]and for your information, some are higher than others but the bottomline is they/we actually start their/our life on the same plane, it's just how we utilize that makes our state difference to others.[/quote] yeah, that's why we can't actually say no to euthanasia, yes, you're right, we start our life in the same plane but in different scenarios, so not everybody is as happy as you as right now If someone we know is having a huge problem, as in huge, then talk about it and of course we won't mention suicide cause that is stupid and we let them think on their own, and if they talk about suicide, we should say consider other options. But that doesn't really apply to someone who just lost his arms, legs, is lonely, no wife, no kids, no family, doesn't have money/no meaning in life, does it?
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[quote=strikerno14;#3648373;1278520757]actually their just stupid, and most emos dress like that cause it looks cool.[/quote] THeir CLOTHES is not my point, btw. [quote=strikerno14;#3648373;1278520757]yeah, that's why we can't actually say no to euthanasia, yes, you're right, we start our life in the same plane but in different scenarios, so not everybody is as happy as you as right now[/quote] if you know the difference between "hardworking" and "Laziness" i probably won't see that reply from you and my life is great because my parents are hardworking ones and take note; WE START FROM SCRATCH. [quote=strikerno14;#3648373;1278520757]If someone we know is having a huge problem, as in huge, then talk about it and of course we won't mention suicide cause that is stupid and we let them think on their own, and if they talk about suicide, we should say consider other options. But that doesn't really apply to someone [b]who just lost his arms, legs, is lonely, no wife, no kids, no family, doesn't have money/no meaning in life, does it?[/quote] care to explain furthur?
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