[quote=ReversEdge]i highly suggest to you better practice "Juggle combos" and unreaded rhythms. unfortunately, graplings are useless in a real fight? why? because if your opponent read that rhythm(viceversa), well practically, just simply press down and do "whilerising" movement depends what character you used? its also easy to skip from grapling moves, just press (1),(2), (1+2), (2+1), (1+3), (2+4) and so on depends what grab s he used depends on how you read his movements. btw, are you aware with this term, "justframe"?[/quote] Well today I finally use Dragunov for real battle with pro lv 2th Kyu's Christie and lose badly because can't even grip it except I win once for using Mantis Heel.Dragunov's grip is special because he is gripping style character so some of his grip is unescapable like up front 3+4 but can be dodge while down back 1+2 need system to escape,and the problem is how you grip only. Now I mastred Lili's newbie lv combo and I can use it to defeat 2th Kyu's Christie.I can also control Lee well...now I really want to show out Dragunov's real character that is Combo until half use grip to end it..any idea?