Respect is such a vast term. Let us start on trust first.

[quote=Ephemeral]Respect is such a vast term. Let us start on trust first. [/quote] Very well said bro.. [hr][hr][hr][hr] So guys can we just get a long now and erase all the hatred inside our heart? I am not demanding alright? I am just suggesting. Merry Christmas to all of you.... :gift:

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good thread we got here. i believe that one of the goals of this thread is not to take down our co-mods. so, please give comments that can help him/her/them change their bad attitude w/o aggrieving him/her/them. an affable comment wud be much appreciated, and have a big chance to touch him/her/their heart. and once more, not saying names cud represent misunderstanding.

[quote][b]Chill mods. I created this thread for us to talk in a civilized manner. Not Fight. I thought you are mods. Where are your manners now? do not use rude languages. I believe thats in our rules.[/b][/quote] [quote=jamessss:b]And they don't want to receive any bad/negative opinions bout them.[/quote] youre wrong james.. cant you see just a little improvement on them? i know them both more than you do. had this happened before, they would have posted here by now. but did you see them post? did you see them flame? NO I know they have read this. Lets just say they are [b]thinking and evaluating[/b]. In behalf of shirow and yuna regarding this thread: http://theftalk.com/t50040-A-Z-Movie-Titles..html im saying sorry for the picture. I hope thats enough? I don't usually give in "behalfs" when it comes to shirow and yuna but i got to admit that post was rather inappropriate. PS. Pls dont call them stupid or pathetic. [quote=meng.o3]Do I have to name names? Just say so, so i can update this post.[/quote] i wish for you to name names so that we would know.

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^ oops sorry.. i just wanted it to be clearer.. wakewkew .. im chill mengot edited.. X_X anyway, the names? i posted a format on the 1st page.

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i'm still editing this post. I just posted it so as to let all of you know that i'm naming names here. [b]Jirichi Ryunashira[/b] [spoiler]we all know you've changed a lot since who knows when. I do miss the Yuna before. The zeela i know. I dunno if i have the right to tell you that you've adopted some traits of Shirow, but i can say that i know that the yuna i once knew upon registering here at ftalk is still a part of you, still there, hidden. You're one of the pioneer mods, and it follows that you're more experienced than the majority, and i hope that you show the rest of the staff, and the ftalk community how things should be done, done in an orderly way. I'm still not giving up the hope of encountering the yuna who once called me 'ate' in a sisterly way.[/spoiler] [s]meng.o3 [/s] [b]lucknskill [/b] [spoiler]havent seen him in a while. maybe just busy with studies?[/spoiler] [b]Ephemeral[/b] [spoiler]I know you're one of the well-respected mods here. Hands down. I hope most of us here would be influenced by you. Although there may be times that i do not agree with some of the things you're doing, majority, almost all of your works and actions are favorable.[/spoiler] [b]`mizeL [/b] [spoiler]same with bob. haven't seen her too.[/spoiler] [b]aysbeaux [/b] [spoiler]there are times that you are strict, times that you let the rulebreakers pass. Never let others influence you. I know you can handle yourself well, that you can decide on your own.[/spoiler] [b]jamessss:b[/b] [spoiler]Too much frankness (frankness? is there such a word? ) isn't good. You can tell everyone how you feel about the person, but there are still limitations. You can point out the bad things about a person without saying harsh words. You know how to fight for what you believe in, just minimize the super frankness, and the words you are using. We can be unmindful of what we are saying when we are mad, and might regret it later on when we calm down.[/spoiler] [b]TA Juleigtin Siahaan [/b] [spoiler]I dunno what to say to you, since you're a regional moderator. But i would like to acknowledge the way you accepted your wrong doings before..way way back in when you were a new mod.[/spoiler] [b]eehjhay[/b] [spoiler]You're a well experienced mod..i've seen you in mct before, the thing is most people do not appreciate you. You are strict. You can be as stubborn as you want to be. You flame, you curse - that's the perception most of us see in you. Behind those sarcastic remarks, those actions you've done, the chaos happening when you act upon a member, the outrage they make, you are still seen as a bad guy. I know you know it pretty well, how people treat you. How they wanted you down. But believe me, you've shown enough effort to gain my respect. There were times that i do not agree with you, and i know you don't always agree with me. The thing is, no matter how people perceive your attitude, I'm fully aware that you still aim for the wellness of this community.[/spoiler] [b]' 'eMokIdD[/b] [spoiler]You've been a headache before, and i'm glad that you didn't continue the attitude that most members despise. It's nice to know that you at least follow my advices, my comments about your attitude, the times that you can no longer hold your temper. I do admire the respect you're giving me and allowing me to scold you at times that you go overboard. I've noticed recently that you're okay, that there aren't any arguments involving you. Continue improving yourself. [/spoiler] [b]kristina16[/b] [spoiler]Hmm..I haven't heard any wrong doings you've done, or any complaint from the members. It just shows that you value them, or maybe you're to good that they don't dare fight with you. Thanks for being a good co-mod, and i would like to apologize if i hadn't been much of help in some of the sections that we share.[/spoiler] [b]andHa[/b] [spoiler]Continue with your job. I'm not much familiar with your actions, but since there are no issues about you, i believe that you're doing your job the right way. [/spoiler] [b]dale[/b] [spoiler]I don't feel that you're a moderator. It can be because that I don't visit your section, or plus the fact that you don't visit the backstage. Anyway, do i still have to continue to comment? Afterall, dale won't be able to read this, he doesn't even bother checking the backstage.[/spoiler] [b]ducheszv[/b] [spoiler]You've done your job well as a moderator. There are times that you have the tendency to be overprotective of your friends. You might not notice it, but sometimes, you overlook explanations of others and believe only on the things that concerns your friends. It may be good, but there are also downsides. Also, your feelings pretty much affect your decisions. However, i do appreciate the dedication you have and enthusiasm you're showing when it concerns the forum.[/spoiler] ezil2007 Shirow Masamune takashi blurrycloud AFZULNIZAM k8 anne.24 portuniecho Lyas-rowkz

Last edited by meng.o3 (2008-11-11 11:25:51)

duch asked me to name names. But instead, i decided just to comment on each.

^ which is much better. i don't know what my co-mods think of me. me getting nervous.. [quote=jamessss:b]Guys, what's happening? It's getting worst. I missed the old ftalk, were all of us used to be friends, close friends. [/quote] i think what meng's doing is nice.. i would like to give comments to all of the mods.. don't worry tay.. i hope with this thread we can have the old days back. at least i had a glimpse of it when i was just newly promoted.

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[quote=meng.o3]I know you're one of the well-respected mods here. Hands down. I hope most of us here would be influenced by you. Although there may be times that i do not agree with some of the things you're doing, majority, almost all of your works and actions are favorable.[/quote] Sure, it's okay. I just try my best to support my answers. I know some of my replies are ridiculously long that's why some misinterpret them... Sometimes I post idiotic, sarcastic and straight to the point replies that are kind upsetting to read. All I can say is... When I post. I post what I believe is right. If the thread starter doesn't agree to my idea. I simply ask why his/her ideas are better. The problem is... They do not bother replying to my simple question because of my anonymity aura... They think, I would bite them and kill them in posts. I assure you, I am not like that. In fact, I am a very open minded person, that's why I ask before I give my own opinions. I can be frank too... So much that I could actually hurt a person by words. But, I avoid doing that. In general. I am human so I make mistakes. I gotta admit, I committed many acts unfavorable to you guys. But that doesn't stop me. Because if you only know my real life status right now. These can be considered as petty problems. Being a Forumer is my only escape in my so called life [i](with YM of course)[/i]. Anyway, this is still my comment to all. [quote=Ephemeral]Some moderators are too eager to dispatch some old demons in our Suggestion and Feedbacks. I suggest loosen up a bit. Let them suggest and complain. They won't react if you don't react. Just post a neutral reply. If they keep bothering you. Just give them a simple reply.[/quote] Eventually, they will give out so called evidences that will lead to their on destruction. It's like chess. Over-attacking can lead to a suicidal defeat.

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[quote=jamessss:b]First, for Yuna & Shirow. They've changed. I don't like the way they post, esp: the part of their post w/ stupid images. I dont get why they need to add those stupid and nonsense images in public. Some newbies find it rude or they feel that they're not welcome, right? Uh, that's it w/ the two of you. [/quote] It's not stupid and nonsense images. Try to learn how to lurk on other sites, e.g 4chan. Where you can feel the real interwebz world. Arguments, Facts, Truths, Irony, Drama are there. Just a friendly reminder, Have some internet sense of humor it won't hurt you. OR try to check other forums, those images, let me say "Internet Phenomena" in short [url=http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Meme]Meme[/url] OTI. It's universal and common thing for forumer. Well if you only go to 1-2 forums, then probably you will never understand it. If you feel offended by those images, why don't you just ignore it? Are those images have 'JAMES' word inside? No? Then Ignore is the best way. Don't be too sensitive. If you said they are stupid images, why would you bother yourself with 'stupid' things? If you think it's stupid then IGNORE. [quote=eehjhay]And it is obvious on Yuna's signature. Did we already discuss in here to avoid doing those, like putting some lines or images that may lead to flames?[/quote] Now about my signature, I bet everyone really loves to criticize every part of me. What next? My total post counts? XD (I remembered some were complained about my total post counts before.) Is there 'For James:' word in my sig? No? Then it's not for him. I met a lot of people until this time not only him. And oh well.. if my signature kinda offended some Moderators, then I apologize for that. I never expect that someone will make that as a big matter. [quote=ducheszv]youre wrong james.. cant you see just a little improvement on them? i know them both more than you do. had this happened before, they would have posted here by now. but did you see them post? did you see them flame? NO I know they have read this. Lets just say they are thinking and evaluating. In behalf of shirow and yuna regarding this thread: [url]http://theftalk.com/t50040-A-Z-Movie-Titles..html[/url] im saying sorry for the picture. I hope thats enough? I don't usually give in "behalfs" when it comes to shirow and yuna but i got to admit that post was rather inappropriate. PS. Pls dont call them stupid or pathetic. [/quote] Thanks ducheszee. I noticed that people who can really understand us are people who always interact with us. (Read:duch) For others, try to give comments by looking the both sides. Not only the one-sided for everyone's sake. [quote=meng.o3]we all know you've changed a lot since who knows when. I do miss the Yuna before. The zeela i know. I dunno if i have the right to tell you that you've adopted some traits of Shirow, but i can say that i know that the yuna i once knew upon registering here at ftalk is still a part of you, still there, hidden. You're one of the pioneer mods, and it follows that you're more experienced than the majority, and i hope that you show the rest of the staff, and the ftalk community how things should be done, done in an orderly way. I'm still not giving up the hope of encountering the yuna who once called me 'ate' in a sisterly way.[/quote] [quote=eehjhay]@meng I really agree with what you commented on Yuna. I remember when the time I had the chance to chat with Yuna. But now, it's like Yuna is mirror that reflects Shirow's attitude. And also yeah, I realised that she is one of the pioneer of this forum. She must be one of the models that other moderators should look upon to.[/quote] Thanks for your concern. I believe I've changed become a better Yuna. Like duch said, "cant you see just a little improvement on them?" There's no hidden part in myself. Myself is myself. And there's no OLD and NEW Yuna. There's only CHANGES which in my humble opinion, IMPROVING. I bet the OLD YUNA you all known is the nice and kind mod, which also have a lot of disrespects from other members because of being nice. For example I gave a warning, but because they knew that I'm such a nice mod then they ignoring my warning and keep breaking the rules. I became more strict to discipline those kind of members. Now, most of them never ignoring my warning and start following the rules. I could see that myself is improved. I'm still nice and kind, just become more strict and realistic. I believe what I'm doing is right and following my true heart. But well sometimes, I did make mistake. No one could be perfect, no matter how hard they try. But I'm trying to do my best always. At last, I'm still doing my job here. Zapping reports, Checking my moderated sections, Posting in threads to give my POV, and so on. It's better than some good-for-nothing-people. FRANKLY, I don't care if you keep criticizing me, but please DO NOT PUT ANY NAME like "She is changed because of Shirow or putanynamehere." I changed because I [b]wanted[/b] to. I knew what is "RIGHT" and what is "WRONG". I don't want my path to be ruled or controlled by people who didn't know the real me. Let me re-quote my previous post on Confession thread : [quote]Well. This is myself now. I loev myself now. At least, I'm not a fake person. For those, who were complained about "We miss the Old Yuna" I just want to tell you. If you are truly my friend, do not complain how I'd changed. You have to accept all the way I am. That's the true friend. I ruled my own life. I have a quote about this. [quote]"Friend - a person known well to another and regarded with liking, affection and loyalty."[/quote] How long do you know me to say things like that? Thanks for the attention. But I'm not asked for it and I will never do that. You obviously don't understand and don't know about myself.[/quote] And again.. it's my FREEDOM as a Member of this forum to post according to my opinions. If my style of posting is bad, then why some people copied that and did the same thing? Does that mean they are bad too? And oh.. Did I always include images in every post I made? No? Srsly, why some people bothered themselves with that? Anyway, I don't want to become a model for other people. I did it for the lulz. [spoiler]"Change is the end result of all true learning. Change involves three things: First, a dissatisfaction with self-a felt void or need; second, a decision to change-to fill the void or need; and third, a conscious dedication to the process of growth and change-the willful act of making the change; Doing Something."[/spoiler]