[quote=eBay Ghost]And it all boils down to the reason that "hard headed" member has for joining. They don't care about the purpose of the group, they joined because their friends are members. One bad member certainly is enough to influence others. Sad but true. [/quote] yup! sad but true... sigh.. bcoz of sumthing lyk dat... frat.sor org is discriminated... i hate that bcoz im a member of a frat.sor org too... where changing the way people think here.. but sadly the majority cant be changed... that in their mind, frat.sor org is bad/evil... as seen on tv and other media related reports... we can't pleased everybody... gobless.. and tnx