[quote=mama0114]OMG i really dont know the prob with ur script bob... hmmm, i gave u the way of what just i did to my profiles and to my other friends profiles hmmm.. maybe its better if we could leave it to the experts,,, i dont know how to fix your scripts. i even used ur scripts to test it in my profile yet no good results. there are conflicting codes in ur scripts maybe im sad[/quote] Yes I agree but it must be in my .css codes to I tried it on my bobstest profile with no other functions and it still fails...I think its time for me to start with just a blank profile and find the problem..it just bugs me to death why everyone can get it so quickly and here its been a week of trying different variations of the code only to keep By the way you are using the latest version of the WVM, not the one marfillaster posted today? Thanks for all ur time in helping me +1 rep for being extremely helpful :rose: