for those having some probs with the wvm, try this post for proper instructions. just read carefully to fully understand the process.. for example im using this wvm+s version here's the link... http://theftalk.com/viewtopic.php?id=16459 this is for those who wanna start with only the WVM and their CSS... or you can follow the example on topic no.5 or 6 coz those js are easier to understand on compiling... its a matter of time to learned the process of understanding....(well me it took me 3 months of studying it) if you succesfully made a WVM, the second step is adding a JS one at a time. like for example is the addboxes in this process you may encounter some errors like the double boxes or the codes not showing up..... try adding the js codes one at the time and ensure that only one onload handler are loaded on your js. more onload handler will conflict your codes specially on the WVM...... for those still having some probs with there js, we (like Bobcbar,Micky,Lordheins and me) will happy to help unless your not follow the rules stick on this forum... so see you around then, got some work to do...